these clothes are too big, so i'm donating them. how'd you do it? eating right, whole grain. [ female announcer ] people who choose more whole grain tend to weigh less than those who don't. multigrain cheerios... five whole grains, 110 calories. >> john: look at that number. that is what congress says it needs to spend this year. give me a break. 3 trillion, 800 billion dollars. president obama talked about taking a scalpel to the budget. no, we need something bigger than that. we need to make huge cuts. i'll cut the deficit down to surplus is when i or others talk about making significant cuts. i hear scathing criticism. >> don't rush stossel. he is nothing but a corporate shill. >> john: okay my producer made it as a joke. anyone who proposes cuts to the budget is branded cruel. one person says cutting that down isn't economically smart. it's the moral thing to do. arthur brooks of the american enterprise says that. what do you mean it's the moral thing to do? >> when the other side talks about doing the moral things. it's only fair for rich peopl